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Downers Grove Plans Standing Committee Meeting to Tackle Chicken Coop Regulations

Village Manager Dave Fieldman said fowl regulations will be discussed Jan. 21 during a standing committee of the village council.

 

Downers Grove village staff will wait until next year to present possible changes to the current ordinance on backyard chicken coops.

Village Manager Dave Fieldman announced during a council meeting Tuesday that the fowl ordinance will be discussed during a standing committee of the village council on Monday, Jan. 21, 2013.

Although staff has not a set a time for the meeting, Fieldman said it will likely be held in the early evening.

The Downers Grove Council took up the issue of backyard chicken coops durings its Dec. 4 meeting at the request of Commissioner Becky Rheintgen, who asked that village staff look into the possibility of increasing the number of chickens permitted, decreasing setback requirements, banning roosters and requiring a license or permit for keeping chickens.

Currently, the village defines fowl as "any domesticated bird, poultry or water fowl, except for homing pigeons and caged birds kept as house pets." A maximum of four fowl aged 18 weeks or older and four fowl younger than 18 weeks are permitted on residential properties.

Per village code, all fowl must be entirely confined in a pen, coop, building or other enclosure at all times. Enclosures must be set back at least 50 feet from any property line, and shall be kept "clean, sanitary and free from all refuse."

Rheintgen said the lot size requirements prohibit most residents from maintaining backyard coops.

"Since the ordinance was created in 1987, there's been a movement toward sustainability, growing your own food and controlling your own food source, and the trend continues to grow and become more popular," Rheintgen said. "The ordinance as it's written excludes a great deal of our residents due to their lot size, and I think there may be a way to modify the ordinance to be more inclusive to residents while still being considerate and respectful of their neighbors."

In an interview after the meeting, Rheintgen said her request was prompted both by her interest in sustainable living and recent complaints regarding the lot size of current chicken owners.

"This is an issue that I brought to the council last year when we were discussing goals and plans for 2012, but it never went anywhere," Rheintgen said. "With the recent complaints that were brought to our attention, I felt it was a good time to re-visit the issue to see where we stand and if there's any room for change."

Downers Grove has two active enforcement cases against chicken owners, both of whom were present and addressed the council Dec. 4.

Dawn Konters, of the 5700 block of Hillcrest Road, started raising chickens five years ago as a learning tool for her children. According to village documents, a complaint was filed against her last month due to the placement of her coop—allegedly less than 50 feet away from the property lines.

She asked commissioners to consider amending the village's requirements for coop placement.

"I feel confident that chickens should be allowed in Downers Grove, and I think they could work for most residents and be an asset for the community as well," Konters said.  

LeAnn Lolli, of the 4100 block of Highland Avenue, also started raising chickens as an experiment with her children. According to the village code inspector, her property is not large enough to accommodate the current guidelines for housing fowl.

"You don't think of chickens as pets, but it's an experience I've grown to love," Lolli said. "The whole family has enjoyed it, and we've learned a lot ... It's surprising how much like pets these birds really are. It's not much different from having a dog or a cat."

Rheintgen said she was not acquainted with either woman before Tuesday. Because both cases are still pending, the village declined to provide any further comment.

Mayor Martin Tully asked each of the commissioners not about their position on changing the ordinance, but whether they would support a future discussion. Although Rheintgen, Tully, and Commissioners Bob Barnett and Geoff Neustadt were in favor of placing the item on a future agenda, Commissioners William Waldack, Sean Patrick Durkin and Marilyn Schnell expressed reservations about using the village's limited resources to research the issue.

"What has really changed since 1987? Nothing—the only thing that has changed is popularity," Waldack said. He also questioned the staff's priorities and whether researching the fowl ordinance would be the best use of their time.

Schnell, also expressing concern about the staff's workload, asked what items would be placed on the backburner should the council move forward with discussing the ordinance. She said the council should be aware of the "huge implications" the issue has on the community, especially if any decisions are made without careful consideration and public input.

"I have serious reservations about this," Schnell said. "What is one man's pleasure and opportunity is another man's nightmare. Whatever we do needs to be balanced so all people are considered and respected."

Neustadt, Tully and Barnett each said the council should at least entertain a more formal discussion before shutting down Rheintgen's request altogether.

"From my perspective, at least talking about it in two weeks doesn't seem to be unreasonable because there's no obligation to decide anything during a workshop," Tully said.

With the majority of commissioners in favor of moving forward, Village Manager David Fieldman said he would begin working with Rheintgen and village staff to examine the request.

Downers Grove is one of several Chicago suburbs that allow residents to keep chickens, roosters and other fowl in their backyards. Other communities that permit residential coops include Naperville, Plainfield, Brookfield, Westchester, Batavia, Evanston, Schaumburg and Western Springs.

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DHD

11:36 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

50 feet from any property line is a proper distance in a residential area. You are going to love all the rodents the chicken feed attracts.

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MC

2:15 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

50 ft is arbitrary and capricious.

Why have an increasing number of nearby municipalities (and around the country) approved backyard hens with smaller setbacks? Do you know something about what is "proper" that they don't?

Whatever distance a community wants to settle on, I actually think the setback should be from the neighboring residence, not the property line.

Cindy A.

1:14 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Anyone who purchases organic feed stores their feed safely and correctly to protect their investment and the health of their flock.

Perhaps rodents are drawn to common bird feeder seed, or squirrel treats.

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DHD

1:33 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

This is about sanitation and rodent prevention. This is a residential area, you should have bought a farm if you wanted to raise livestock.

MC

2:21 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

"This is a residential area, you should have bought a farm if you wanted to raise livestock."

Irrelevant. A municipality shall grant its residents the rights to do what the community values, regardless of those labels.

I could just as easily say "you should have bought a condo in Chicago if you don't like how your suburban neighbors are utilizing their ample yards." OH WAIT, backyard chickens are legal in Chicago too.

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Kim Kasallis

2:47 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

This is DuPage County, not Alabama. We don't pay $14k in taxes to live next to livestock.

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J. Geoff Rove

5:33 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

We have had kenneled mutts barking for years and these clowns fail to enforce current codes, no surprise there.

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MC

8:33 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

Wow. Is this a serious comment? If so, i don't know where to start...

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Kelly

9:00 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

What if the chickens are housed in the very upscale Williams Sonoma chicken coop? The one with the hand painted chicken graphic not just the basic model. I think it runs about $1000.

Samuel B

11:10 pm on Wednesday, December 12, 2012

There is a far better article in this weeks Downers Grove Reporter (which "nobody reads" according to some of the more arrogant staff members of the Patch) about this issue. As usual, the Patch only gives sketchy information and a brief background which adds to the confusion and misconception of backyards chickens,

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Amanda Luevano

1:30 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Samuel, you must have missed the previous two articles I wrote on this topic.

This was from last week's council meeting, published Dec. 5. I believe I went into pretty great detail about the discussion, the complaints that prompted the discussion and what was going to happen moving forward. Sorry if you disagree.
http://downersgrove.patch.com/articles/downers-grove-staff-to-review-chicken-coop-regulations-despite-split-council

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Amanda Luevano

1:33 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Just to clarify, this was an update from last week. It was announced Tuesday night that a meeting would be held in January, which is new information—hence the new article. Hopefully you get a chance to read last week's story, Samuel.

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Mark Thoman

8:52 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120117/news/701179658/
This is an article about Naperville's activity. St. Charles, Plainfield, Oak Park, Batavia, and Chicago have ordinances. LaGrange saod no in October. Of note, setbacks seem to be from the nearest house, not the lot line.

Naperville's ordinance was triggered by neighbor complaints of noise and smell. They tightened their ordinance to increase set-back from 25 to 30 feet (from the nearest home) and reduce number of hens allowed to eight..

http://www.cdc.gov/healthypets/pdf/intown_flocks.pdf
Salmonella is the main concern when dealing with fowl, especially with children The CDC has specific guidelines for backyard chickens that Naperville's ordinance seems to heed.

http://elmhurst.patch.com/articles/busy-agendas-for-elmhurst-committees-but-first-it-s-time-to-talk-turkey-about-chickens
I don't know if Elmhurst has reached a decision yet but they have delegated considerable time and effort to be as comprehensive as possible on the issue. One would expect DG to be no less thorough, and to watch Elmhust as they move through their process.

There's generally favorable information about raising and keeping hens at backyardchickens.com.

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Kelly

8:57 am on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Tall fences make for great neighbors....If you do not like what the neighbor is doing with thier property then build a fence...6 foot and solid.
There will be far more responsible chicken owners than neglectful ones and as with anything, why should the rest of us be punished?
I do agree that roosters need to be banned and the village needs to be serious about the follow-up for reported violations and annoyances. Coops attract mice and rats just like birdfeeders and in general any backyard has many many different critters. The birds do need to be protected from coyotes/fox/domestic dogs.

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Brian Mc

9:45 am on Monday, December 17, 2012

I hope this gets a thorough discussion in DG. If enacted, I can tell you I would be getting myself a couple of egg laying hens. I love eggs, and our kids would love the routine of caring for chickens.

Thanks to Becky Rheintgen for bringing this to the table.

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