A small protest took place outside of the Kelly Miller Circus at O'Neill school on Monday. The protest centered around alleged poor treatment of circus elephants.
Readers, did you attend the circus? If so, how was it? Did the protest affect you? How do you feel about the treatment of elephants and other animals that work in circuses? Share your thoughts in the comments.
UPDATE:
District 58 Education Foundation president Jay Stocki commented Wednesday on the Kelly Miller Circus and the protests surrounding the treatment of circus elephants.
Stocki, who is in his first year as foundation president, said he researched the matter when it was first brought up and was assured by Kelly Miller they took the upmost care of their animals. Stocki also said that upon arrival to O'Neill, Kelly Miller by all accounts were taking every precaution necessary to properly care for the animals.
However, Stocki said the protesters do have a point, and just because the animals may be treated well now, there's no way to tell how they were trained or cared for in the past.
Stocki went on to say the foundation hasn't made any decision about whether to bring the circus back next year, and that he is always looking for and open to new ideas and alternatives. Anyone interested in offering suggestions for alternative fundraising events in the future can send Stocki an email at president@58foundation.org.
In related news, a District 58 item on its website noted the circus generated more than $10,000 to benefit students in District 58.
Ellie
5:55 am on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
With the Internet at our fingertips there is no excuse for not educating yourself about exotic animals’ natural behaviors and the methods “all” circuses use to train their exotic animals. I have and if you love these animals and believe they should be treated humane you will too. I was horrified to learn that I was actually condemning these animals to a life time of misery just to entertain my family for a few minutes.
Becky the elephant in the first part of this video is leased by and touring with Kelly Miller Circus. You’ll hear her abuser screaming out her name. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouGQD6lf6A
This is how Ringling Bros Circus trains their baby elephants. http://www.ringlingbeatsanimals.com/bound-babies.asp
This is video shows how Have Trunk Will Travel trains their elephants to perform in circuses, movies and TV commercials.
http://www.ad-international.org/media_centre/go.php?id=2128
If your family loves animals the circus is the last place you would take them.
Tony Cesare
9:47 am on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
What's more frightening, the alleged mistreatment of the animals performing in the circus or that creepy girl who crawled out of the well in 'The Ring' holding up a sign in protest and scaring giving all the attending children nightmares? (see photo above)
I have no particular love of circuses (clowns scare the crap out of me) but my kids were enchanted and had a ball. Do I want to see abusive methods used to train circus animals? Absolutely not, but I really wonder if having Ring Girl (that is a girl, isn't it?!?) flashing a gruesome sign in children's faces is the best way to generate sympathy for your cause.
Kahlan
12:01 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Seriously? All you can focus on is just this one picture? That girl happens to be one of my friends, and she is a very sweet, loving, and peaceful person. Appearances aren't everything. The signs aren't really intended for the kids but more for the adults who are making the decision to patronize the circus and in turn, horrible animal abuse and imprisonment.
That's wonderful your kids had a good time, but I'm sure there are plenty of other animal friendly attractions out there where your kids would be equally enchanted.
Dianne Arp
11:37 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
By spending your money on the circus to entertain your kids - you're supporting animal cruelty. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. Find another way to have fun w/your kids that does NOT involve the beating, whipping and electic shocking animals to 'perform' for humans!!
Yvonne Polenc
9:43 am on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Really? Is that all you can say? Right you don't want to see an elephant being abused but you'll take your children to see them perform for your entertainment that's liek saying I don't want to kill the cow I eat but don't mind if someone else kills it! Try again moran!
Robert Bykowski
10:01 am on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Tony, was that the first time your kids have been to the circus? Would you take them again?
Tony Cesare
2:18 pm on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
They loved it, although it was really expensive. I would have prefered a flat entry fee that included everything (animal rides, ext.). Oh, and my wife took them, I wasen't kidding when I said I'm freaked out by clowns..'
Ellie
4:15 pm on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Tony C, I can't help but believe that if your children saw the way circuses beat and abuse their animals to train them to perform circus tricks, they would freak out and never attend another circus and stay home with you. Children can recognize animal abuse when they see it.
Chad D. Walz
10:15 pm on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
This isnt the first time Kelly Miller has been here. Why now with the protests?
Dianne Arp
11:44 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Because more and more people are becoming eduated about the abuse of circus animals and are willing to do something about it.
Ellie
1:20 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
The Internet has changed the way we get information and communicate. Google, YouTube and facebook allow people to communicate in ways like never before. More and more people are learning for the first time the inhumane lives these animals live. As sickening as those videos of baby, adult elephants and other circus animals are to watch, they do prove beyond any doubts that these animals are abused just to make them perform circus tricks for entertainment. The more you edcuate yourself on the topic the worse it gets. For me to remain silent about this circus animal abuse would be to condone it. My conscience won’t allow that.
BigCubsFan
10:43 pm on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
What about cramming all those clowns in that little car? Doesn't anybody care about the treatment of the clowns?
Scott C.
11:23 pm on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
I'm not tree hugging, Peta loving hippie at all (I'm not a fan of Peta's extremism). But traditional circuses are little more than institutionalized animal abuse that is glammed up during showtime and sold as a special piece of Americana, so it has gotten a historical pass.
I dare anyone who thinks otherwise to watch the videos and view the pictures on the websites linked to above in their entirety. Its pure stomach turning human domination at its worst.
Cirque du soleil and similar groups are redefining circus entertainment. The sooner they catch on further and replace things like Kelly Miller and Ringling Brothers, the better.
Yes, kids love it. They don't know any differently. I used to love it too (and still understand the good old fashioned family fun aspects).
Once you see how these animals are forced to perform for your entertainment (and almighty dollar), you'll never look at it the same way again.
The real problem isn't the circus. They're responding to a market demand. The problem is in O'Neill and others hiring them. There are other ways to make money.
Elizabeth Major
8:30 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
It is the Dist 58 Education Foundation that sponsors the circus - not Oneill - they just set up there because of the space.
Ellie
10:56 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
When the School District provides space for the circus to set up at O’Neill and they sell tickets to the circus at District 58 Administrative Service Center and the School District advertises the circus’s arrival, then the Downers Grove School District is equally involved with bringing Kelly Miller Circus to town.
Don
11:46 pm on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Please learn about what goes on behind the scenes at circuses. The maintenance and training of circus elephants/animals involves emotional and physical abuse. Here's a video of an elephant being "trained” http://tiny.cc/circus-training. Please don't support abuse in your community. Say no to animal circuses. More info: http://beckykmc.webs.com/.
Elaine Johnson
8:51 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
I'd be interested to hear how the Education Foundation and district feel about the protests and whether they will continue this annual fundraiser in light of it.
Scott C.
10:22 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Me too...although I'd be far more interested to hear their response to the substance behind the protests than just the protest itself.
Protesters are easy to "spin" away. I'd like to hear their response to allegations that providing business to these circuses supports abusive practices. Harder to get out of that one, but they'll probably say that the circus they hired is licensed and meets all regulatory requirements, etc. And they likely won't be wrong in saying so, but it also sidesteps the real issue. This is how circuses have been justified for decades.
Elizabeth Major
11:56 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
I would also like to know if protesters went to the Foundation and district prior to demonstrating with their concerns.
Melanie C
10:01 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
It is sad if indeed these animals are being abused for our entertainment. I love all animals and personally think that abuse of any kind is heart wrenching. However, do any of you eat meat? Some might say that you are supporting the slaughter of animals for your dietary entertainment. There are many atrocities in this world. It seems like everyone needs a cause these days. I commend people for fighting for what they believe in but maybe these people could find a fight worth fighting. How about picketing in the Middle East against road side bombs, suicide bombers, treating women like dirt, or any number of nasty things that go on there on a DAILY basis. Perhaps volunteer to be a Chemo Angel and send someone a gift during their battle with cancer. Seriously, captivity could be considered cruel but I would bet that most of you have been to the zoo. How come you don't bring your picket signs there? We don't know what goes on behind the scenes there. Unless there are some videos showing us and I have missed them. The bottom line for me....pray for all the horrible things that go on in this world and accept that some things are not going to change even though you may want them to. If you don't like it don't go! Pretty simple, I think.
Scott C.
10:08 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Melanie, there is a monumental difference between animals you mentioned and you need only scroll up to see the videos and pictures. They're right there in front of you.
Those that are raised for food typically have a very comfortable life being fed to become fat and happy and then have one very bad day when they are killed for processing. Of course, if those animals are abused every day of their lives, it is equally objectionable.
Likewise, zoo and aquarium animals are typically not beaten into performing unnatural acts but are usually kept in natural environments and allowed to live natural lives (although I do take issue with dolphin and whale shows which are unnatural and in my opinion abusive).
Circus animals are bred to be broken of spirit in order to be trained to perform unnatural behaviors in unnatural environments for paying customers 11 months of the year.
Robert Bykowski
10:24 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
To be fair, Scott, animals raised for food by-and-large do NOT have a comfortable life leading up to the day they are killed.
Similar to your sentiments, I'm always conflicted on how I feel about zoos. On the one hand, zoos (if they're good zoos, which the nearest one to us is), offer an amazing service both to the public and to the animals they care for which can't be understated. On the other hand, you're still taking animals out of their natural habitat and putting them on display for our entertainment.
Scott C.
10:32 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Robert, its a sliding scale to be sure. But make no mistake, circus animals are close to the furthest end of animal abuse. They are raised to be broken so that they perform. It is that simple.
Very true that many animals raised for consumption don't enjoy cage free days on the idyllic grassy countryside (like most cattle you see driving through Wisconsin) but instead are in rough conditions (corporate cattle farming in California). The market is working to make improvements here (as people become more aware and buy cage free, free range, etc.). But yes, a sliding scale/spectrum exists there too.
You are also correct that zoos, and the various animals in them, can fit in different points of the spectrum. I generally like zoos, but prefer those that are as close to natural habitat and stress free for the animal as possible. Those that focus on rehabilitating injured animals that couldn't survive in the wild (eagles with broken wings, animals abandoned by their mothers and left to die and rescued but only able to survive in captivity) are preferable to those that breed animals for the sake of captivity, especially when their facilities are subpar. And then there are sorry excuses for "zoos" that are arguably as abusive as circuses. It runs the gamut for sure.
There is definitely a broad range. No doubt. And we all have to decide where our comfort level lies and accept it is different for everyone. But knowledge is power.
Kahlan
10:39 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Good points. Some of the protesters (maybe all - I don't know them all) are vegan, meaning they are against all animal exploitation. They don't eat animal products or patronize zoos or other forms of animal entertainment because of the violence and/or imprisonment found in almost all animal industries. Melanie, please go to http://www.watchearthlings.com to see how abusive the meat and dairy industries are. Animals undergo horrid abuse for food.
Do you think it's practical for these suburbanites to go to the MIDDLE EAST to start picketing? Really?? How do you know that they don't already participate in other causes anyway? Just because they're participating in this one protest doesn't mean they don't participate in other causes (such as human causes, as you seem to think they are much more important).
"If you don't like it don't go!" Too bad the animals don't have that choice.
Dianne Arp
11:40 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
I find it interesting - when confronted w/factual information about circus animal abuse - how people deflect to other issues. This is a discussion thread about circus animal abuse, Melanie. Let's stick to the topic at hand.
Yvonne Polenc
9:49 am on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Yes they will change although some change takes time. If everyone had this frame of thinking nobody would ever stand up for anything. We use to have slavery now we don't, we use to (those who could afford of course) wear fur couats now you don't see them as often, we use to have women be second class citizen now we don't, animal cruelty is now a felony is most states. YES WE WILL ABOLISH ALL ANIMAL CRUELTY. Very small way of thinking you have.
bannor
10:32 am on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
the topic at hand is animal abuse and exploitation and farming animals for food or forcing them to perform in circuses are both examples of this. so called "humane" methods such as free range and cage free are just labels to make people feel better about torturing and slaughtering animals for their own personal gratification.
to learn the truth, see this website: http://www.humanemyth.org/
“So many people insist they are against animal abuse, cruelty, suffering and the inhumane treatment of animals, yet they don’t understand they are actively engaging in and supporting egregious suffering, abuse, cruelty and inhumane treatment when they eat animals and their ‘by-products.’ If you are against cruelty, suffering and inhumane treatment, then you go vegan. It’s just that simple.” - Sarah Kiser
Tony Cesare
10:29 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Kahlan-
If I offended either you or your friend, I apologize-that was not my intent.
However, I stand by my point, 'the medium is the message', and flashing gruesome photos into the faces of children will NOT win you converts to your cause-regardless of how just it is.
Scott C.
10:33 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Fair point Tony. But if not for the protesters, we may not be having this exchange of ideas/information. So maybe she didn't win converts in that moment/picture. But her actions have contributed to a further discussion of the issue. And for that, I stand up and slow clap for her!
Dianne Arp
11:43 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Tony, you're shooting the messenger. What about the MESSAGE???!! Would you prefer the protesters put glitter on the brochures? Or how about a little bit of lace around the posters? The MESSAGE is what should turn your stomach, not how 'pretty' it's presented.
Robert Bykowski
11:56 am on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Dianna, I think Tony has a point when you're talking about how to present an issue to such a young age (as it relates to imagery). I know the protest was aimed at the parents, and not the kids, but the visuals are still something to keep in mind. It's an interesting discussion at the very least.
That being said, I thought the actual imagery on the billboards and pamphlets was fairly subdued when compared to visuals often used in animal-rights protests and leaflets.
Kahlan
12:48 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Thank you for the apology, Tony. As someone else already mentioned, It doesn't look like that one picture I see there is too graphic. I don't know about the other signs not pictured above. But it looks like most of them just have words and not images.
Yvonne Polenc
9:52 am on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
Okay then what should be done? Should we wait around for their adult parents to tell them about it. I doubt that would happen! Animal Cruelty is happening and yes Animal Advocates will protest weather you like it or not!
Yvonne Polenc
9:58 am on Wednesday, October 5, 2011
So basicailly the little girl had more of a human soul then her parent? Because her parents saw the picture yet chose to take her inside the tent that houses those beaten animals.
Melanie C
12:00 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
DIANE AND KAHLAN----Wow you are very hostile!!!! I was just trying to point out that there are many causes to fight for. Perhaps the patch can make a web site for those people who would like to address issues and also start other conversations with out being attacked by the likes of you two. Bring on the graphic pictures for all young children to see. REALLY??? If you were intelligent, perhaps you could have addressed this issue in a more productive and less visual manner. Maybe when my daughter is crying because of that image you two could get off your pretentious soap boxes and come over to comfort her. I did discuss what the article was talking about. You two are nasty and I am sorry that I had to have any contact with you today. Good luck in all your future protests!!!!!
Kahlan
12:40 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Wow, Melanie, pot calling the kettle black, eh? I read over my post and made sure I didn't attack YOU personally, but thanks for attacking me and my intelligence. Speechless.
Kahlan
12:43 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
I'm very sorry if your daughter was upset. I wasn't at the protest, but from the picture above, it doesn't look like the images being used in the protest were all that graphic. Looks like a lot of the signs just had words on them too.
Don
12:08 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
For those that would like to educate themselves further, please read/view these two sources:
ABC 20/20 piece on elephants and their experience:
http://tiny.cc/elephant-experience
The Capitivity Industry: The reality of zoos and aquariums
(mentions history and circuses...written by PhDs)
http://www.freewpzelephants.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/the-captivity-industry.pdf
Robert Bykowski
2:08 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
All,
The story has been updated with comments from the education foundation president.
Ellie
2:53 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
It is encouraging that the Ed Foundation President finally spoke up. I don't see how they can continue to ignore this animal abuse for entertainment, let's hope this is the last year the circus is invited back.
Mr. Stocki there is a way to tell how these elephants were trained in the past, watch this video of Becky. This is the way all circus elephants are trained. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouGQD6lf6A
http://www.ringlingbeatsanimals.com/bound-babies.asp
http://www.ad-international.org/media_centre/go.php?id=2128
YouTube is full of videos and pictures showing the entire circus industry abusing and beating these elephants to train them to perform. A picture speaks a thousand words and a video leaves little doubts.
Scott C.
2:19 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Good work, Robert, pursuing the deeper parts of the story. And while Mr. Stocki's answer is exactly as I'd expect it to be, at least he went the step further to leave room for not all being as it may appear, which is at the core of the discussion about the lifetime treatment of circus animals (and not just what we see upon arrival or during showtime).
I also applaud Mr. Stocki's openness to new ideas. Now its up to his team, their constituency and indeed the rest of us to offer the suggestions he has called for. I'll start with "Pretty much any fundraiser other than a circus that includes performing animals" will get support from me. Until then, not a penny.
Good work, Robert, and Mr. Stocki, and especially those who showed up in protest and who are most decidedly responsible (and deserve credit) for prompting this discussion.
To the young lady with the yellow sign (and the other protesters too), you should be extremely proud of yourself. You stood up for what you believe, even in the face of criticism and judgement. Good for you.
Elaine Johnson
2:49 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Do we know whether these were local protesters? Did anyone recognize them? Just curious whether this action reflects a local concern or is part of a larger effort.
Robert Bykowski
3:20 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
I can't speak for all of them, but some of them were from DG. Also, one woman I spoke to said they weren't with any organized group like PETA, but i'm not sure if that applied to everyone who protested. The woman i spoke to about that had gotten signs sent to her from PETA, but said she was just out there on her own behalf.
Kahlan
3:52 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Yep, it's a grassroots west suburban group who cares about animal issues. They're not affiliated with PETA.
Kelly
5:39 pm on Wednesday, September 28, 2011
Personally I do not patronize the Circus or any other animal performing acts, like Sea World. If I had been in town I would have gladly stood with the protestors, no matter if I liked thier style of dress or the graphic nature signs they held. I have felt for several years that the District should evolve beyond using the Circus as a fundraiser. "The Midnight Circus" of Acrobats or DG Choral Society, Ballet, Tivoli Theatre or DG Schools could get involved with a festival of student plays, festival of Childrens films, or Opera performances for children. People gladly buy tickets to see thier children sing, act, dance etc.? I respect Mr. Stocki's statement and he could easily access the USDA website, the governing body for livestock/performing animals, for violations Kelly Miller Circus and the Company they lease animals from and video at ASPCA, PETA and elephant activist websites that are excellent references. Elmhurst Patch, September 7th ran a Kelly Miller Circus story w/concerns.
IMHO Most zoos have evolved from throwing marshmallows to animals behind bars and in cramped cages to sprawling destinations with a message of animal care and conservation with naturalized (not perfect mind you) habitats, breeding programs and the message that animals are to respected as functional members of our world, not be driven to extinction for our own comfort. Brookfield Zoo for example, no longer has an elephant program for several reasons that they openly state on thier website.
Earl M. McGuire
9:52 am on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Its important issues like this one, why I miss all the drama in Downers Grove: Author Mike Hornburg of Downers Grove will have plenty of inspirational ideas from this "Village of Debate" to write his next fiction novel. Yes, I too am worried about the safety of the circus clowns.
bannor
11:18 am on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Earl,
perhaps you should educate yourself on the facts before you sarcastically trivialize the abuse and suffering of the enslaved animals that are forced into performing for people's amusement and profit:
"Elephants in circuses have gone on rampages, injuring and killing spectators and causing property damage. Since 1990, 18 people have been killed and 86 have been injured. In 1994 an elephant named Tyke killed her handler, then went on a rampage in the streets of Honolulu, injuring onlookers and damaging property. Tyke was eventually gunned down by police on a busy street. Other incidents have occurred when elephants are frightened, sometimes by the honking of car horns or other stressors. Tigers have also been known to attack and kill their trainers; others have escaped into terrified communities.
Some elephants used in circuses have been found to carry a human strain of tuberculosis (TB). These animals pose a serious health risk since they are in contact with the public during publicity events and when children receive elephant rides."
http://www.idausa.org/facts/circusfacts.html http://www.bornfreeusa.org/a1a2_circus.php
Earl M. McGuire
1:24 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Not that my opinion matters, but I am all for Cirque du Soleil. I think for this future venue, Cirque du Soleil might be out of the price range, even with the high cost of living in Downers these days.
Don
2:05 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Another underlying but very important factor here is when a community allows any form of abuse to take place there is a silent sanctioning of the behavior on a group level. Animal abuse is a form of abuse that is strongly connected to the human-abuse experience. Dr. Frank Ascione just received a $1.5 million dollar grant from the federal government to continue his research in this area. The dangers of abuse are currently at the forefront. The national anti-bullying and “Not In Our Town” campaigns are two examples. Epidemiologist Dr. Gary Slutkin sees violence as a disease and the movie “The Interrupters” in theaters now is highlighting his work.
For those that may dismiss this topic as trivial, I encourage you to educate yourselves further on this connection. http://tiny.cc/a-triad
Robert Bykowski
2:19 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
have you seen "The Interrupters"? I saw it when it opened at the Siskel Center and some of the people involved came and spoke during a Q&A following the film. Good movie, but I couldn't help but feel that I knew how the story ended and that in some ways the efforts made by the Interrupters were futile. Every day the sun still rises, yknow?
Don
3:02 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Robert, I did see it. I have read about their work as well and the program is very successful.
Robert Bykowski
2:17 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
someone mentioned The Midnight Circus as an alternative circus, and I recently read an article about them: http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/just-children-but-training-for-the-center-ring/ Granted, I know the author so that's how I came across it, but still an interesting read.
Regardless of the direction the EF goes in the future when it comes to the circus, I really hope that anyone who doesn't think it's a good idea to bring the circus to town suggests an alternative or two. I don't think it's a matter of doing the EF's job for them, but I personally think if you're going to protest something you should be willing to take the extra step and suggest alternative solutions for whatever it is you're protesting.
That's just my personal opinion, though.
Don
3:02 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Here's a list of animal-free circuses:
http://tiny.cc/animal-free1
Scott C.
3:11 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
I've also suggested the importance of offering alternatives insofar as doing so is being an engaged community member, but I disagree that there is any burden on those highlighting the poor treatment of circus animals. I don't think the protesters (or their supporters) have an obligation to provide an alternative option if their goal is simply to raise awareness and provide information that is otherwise lacking to the circus consumers. But yes, it would be nice. And in that regard, Dee has offered the list of animal free circuses...not that circuses are the only option.
Scott C.
2:25 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Dee, I'm pretty clearly on the anti-circus side here. But I'm not going to draw a connection between someone attending a circus unaware of the practices behind the animal performances and any further behaviors.
I think the simple point here is that educating folks about what goes on behind the scenes to cause animals to "perform" this way is important and that we should be educated consumers when supporting circuses with performing animals.
Extrapolating it to "a community allowing abuse" is a step too far in my opinion and risks undermining the main point by going a bit too far. I understand the issues you cite are related, but only tangentially as they relate to most of the points made here...in my opinion.
Insisting that there is any level of community supported abuse or extrapolating into other issues is what I dislike about PETA. I'm all for reasonably protecting animals. I'm not in favor of sliding down slippery slopes into every potentially related issue.
Don
4:20 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011
Scott, I understand your reservation. I am not out to shame anyone or any communities because of what they are not aware of; I apologize if my post came across that way. I do think we need to be aware of these connections and how our lack of awareness about all types of abuse is fundamentally damaging to our social fabric. The sources I’ve previously cited are worth referring to to learn more.
Animal abuse is just one type of abuse and all types are connected. A dialogue like this does provide an opportunity to show how these connections are deeper than just one issue. And our culture is currently examining the very dangerous aspect of staying silent and not taking action when it comes to the many faces of abuse. The culture of the circus industry is steeped in "old ways" which includes abuse to animals. And abuse is a silent epidemic in our country. The recent NIOT documentary is worth viewing to learn more about how our society relates to abuse: http://video.pbs.org/video/2137348207/ I understand your feelings about PETA but I am not affiliated with them, any group, or any of the sources I have cited.
Also, I want to say that I decided to share this perspective based on the original post left by Earl McGuire.