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Downtown Parking Near Capacity, Study Confirms

Study recommendations include developing more parking north of the tracks and adjusting time limits on existing parking spaces throughout the downtown area.

After months of work, the Downtown Parking Study is finished.

During Tuesday night's meeting Director of Public Works Nan Newlon presented the report's key findings—which, at first glance, shows Downers Grove is definitely utilizing its 4,000 downtown parking spaces. Some of the specific issues in the report include:

Capacity:

  • There's not enough parking to support future development.

Conditions at peak usage:

  • During the mid-day on weekdays parking north of the railroad tracks is 90 percent occupied—indicating a shortage.
  • During peak times, the parking deck is also at 90 percent capacity.

Commuter parking:

  • Commuter parking permits are actually lower than some nearby towns.
  • There's a demand for overnight and reverse-commute parking.
  • Ironically, commuters who pay the most park the furthest away from the train station.

Recommendations:

The consulting firm and village officials came up with a variety of recommendations, including:

  • Create 15-minute spaces at the ends of blocks for some businesses.
  • Change some parking lot spaces from three hour to one hour parking limits.
  • Convert Level 5 of the parking deck into a daily fee level.
  • Turn Lots A and B into shopper parking.
  • Charge for overnight parking.
  • Regularly adjust parking rates.
  • Investigate ways to increase parking north of the tracks.
  • Implement an anti-shuffling ordinance that would prevent people from moving their car from one parking spot to another on the same block to avoid parking space time limit regulations. 

Mayor Martin Tully commented the good side of being tight on parking is that it's an indication the downtown area is doing well. Tully was also pleased the parking deck is used so much and noted it doesn’t make sense that the commuters parking the furthest away are paying the most.

Commissioner Marilyn Schnell reiterated the importance of finding a way to create more parking north of the tracks. The north side has always been a problem area, she said, and as the businesses there continue to prosper the village needs to do something to alleviate the parking issues.

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Kelly H December 15, 2011 at 02:09 pm
Me either! Running at 90% capacity at peak hours means that we still have at least 10% of spaces open at any given time, which seems like a lot. I wonder what future plans they're referencing when they say, "There's not enough parking to support future development."
Scott C. December 15, 2011 at 02:14 pm
Tony, duly noted. Also to be noted, the article says "near" capacity...not "at" or "over" capacity. So it stands to reason that you have been fortunate (as have I, by the way...never had to circle more than once to find a spot).
I would submit that your (and my) experience, and this study, is an example of what the Village is doing right. They appear to be ahead of the game and meeting resident and visitor parking needs. I'm certain that wouldn't be the case if not for the parking relatively recently built parking garage. So I applaud the Village's foresight and responsible planning. If we want our downtown area to remain a destination for residents and visitors alike and for additional visitors to come, we have to continue these studies and planning. A "Tivoli East" parking garage on the North side of the tracks makes all the sense in the world to me. And public/private partnerships are an increasing trend. I hope the Village puts that option back on the table and resumes discussions.
William Vollrath December 15, 2011 at 02:51 pm
I don't believe for a second that in this economy there are significant retailers screaming for expanded space in downtown Downers Grove. There has been space available ever since the last round of major teardown/reconstruction. How full is the new building just north of the parking palace?
Scott C. December 15, 2011 at 02:59 pm
PS. When there is a 4 year wait for a commuter parking pass, there is a parking shortage at least as to commuter spaces.
Tony Cesare December 15, 2011 at 03:20 pm
If expanded parking will help businesses on the North end of the tracks then I'm all for it. Then again, aside from the Station Strip Malll anchored by Scarletti's, what businesses are there? No one would skip a performance at the Tivoli for lack of parking.
Scott C. December 15, 2011 at 03:27 pm
Tony, not everything can or should be viewed in light of business parking. Its hard to know which comes first, the chicken or the egg. And per my comment below, when there is a 4 year wait for commuter parking passes (which generate revenue), you at least have unmet demand for commuter parking.
Also, last weekend there was a chorus performance at the Tivoli during the day. There were cars parked on side streets for blocks Northeast of the tracks. Street parking is fine, but the more of these events we can/do have, the more a parking deck on the North side is a valid consideration. I'm not suggesting it is the end all be all or a solution to an overwhelming problem. I'm saying it is an option that should be considered in light of all factors and opportunities (and especially in light of the commuter parking shortage), particularly given the presence of an underutilized (and unsightly) gravel lot that has an owner who has expressed interest in working with the Village on a parking opportunity.
PAUL C. December 15, 2011 at 03:29 pm
Good point and everyone has offered good input. The future looks bright for our downtown but the town must be in position to draw in the missing link and that is "national-regional retailers-dining establishments". We currently have none except for the 2 coffee establishments. A Corner Bakery or Gap come to mind immediately. As a town, taking it to the next level and keeping more spending $ here, which creates tax revenue and jobs for our town versus letting that $ go to other towns like Lombard, Oak Brook, Hinsdale, Darien and Naperville! Getting ahead of the curve, is where DG needs to be! We'll never be a Naperville but we can improve and be ready with appropriate parking to attract more retail and dining along with serving our commuters.
William Vollrath December 15, 2011 at 07:14 pm
Here is another dinner bet at any of Downers Grove's finest for any takers (So far, I've had none in a year of offering these.) The Gap will never choose to be the pioneering national retail chain in our downtown. It's even less likely now than when it was a dream of Council some 10 years ago.
Scott C. December 15, 2011 at 08:14 pm
Who knew the Gap was even still in business? Seems a safe bet to me, Bill.
Now...about that Williams Sonoma...
William Vollrath December 15, 2011 at 08:20 pm
I'd be happy with a Bar Louie but won't hold my breath for either.
Kelly December 15, 2011 at 09:35 pm
With children in storytime or other library activities, one hour is not enough - let's keep the three hour spaces and have 30 minute not 15 minute on the ends of the blocks. For shopping downtown I rarely have trouble finding a spot, the library is always a struggle. The TCF Bank lot would be a great spot for additional parking! I am all for the Tivioli having any reason to pave that dangerous eyesore they call a parking lot.
PAUL C. December 16, 2011 at 01:50 am
Scott....you are funny. Gap, Inc which also owns Old Navy and Banana Republic operates stores in Yorktown, Oakbrook, Downtown Hinsdale (womens & kids -2stores) downtown Naperville (I believe 2 stores), 75th Street in DG, Danana Sq in Wheaton! I hardly think they are going out of business. Anyway, I was using them as a type of store that would consider pioneering a national brand in our downtown. Corner Bakery which operates in downtown Hinsdale and Naperville would be a perfect fit for a national dining establishment pioneer. Egg Harbor, a strong regional dining choice has done well in not the best location across from Lemon Tree which perhaps is the hottest new business in the downtown area. As a downtown, we need to have a cohesive plan to attract unique retailers-dining options with a mix of some national attractions. Taking our parking problem and solving it would show the national companies we are serious. Naperville on a larger scale did this and they have attracted many national brands. A few in our downtown, in the next few years would be a start. Revenue from additional sales taxes and job creation make this a no brainer while solving the commuter parking problem also. We must all want more tax revenue and more reasons to shop locally and keep our downtown vibrant. This is all possible!
Scott C. December 16, 2011 at 02:46 am
I like the cut of your Jib, Paul! And I'm glad that the Gap, Inc. is alive and well (and enjoy their economical yet stylish Old Navy offerings for my family)!
I could not agree more with your desire for strong retailers in our downtown or with your bold vision and confidence in DG's ability to get them and keep them. Indeed, that is the only kind of attitude that will see these goals achieved. I'm on board. And, again, I applaud our community for being proactive on the parking issue (although I disagree with a couple of the recommendations). Viva la Gap!
PAUL C. December 16, 2011 at 11:21 am
Happy Holidays Scott and fellow Patch posters! I agree that we all care about issues like infrastructure, government, schools, taxes etc and have our voices heard. This is great! My wish for 2012 (especially on March 20th) is that the voters of DG (most are property and business tax payers) get involved and educated on who their next Illinois state senator and representative candidates are. We all take time to know who is in the lead on "Dancing with the Stars" and yet 85% of the people I talk to don't even know that DG is in a new District (81) that was formed earlier this year so we'll be voting with Woodridge, parts of Naperville, Darien and Westmont. We are talking about electing a senator and a state rep that will vote, tax and spend hopefully in our best interests! March 20th 2012 is a day I hope voters will mark in their calendars, blackberry's, smart phones etc as a day to take 15 minutes out of their busy lives and vote for the senator and state reps that represent their best interests. Again, the 19% voter turnout in the mayoral election this past spring was pathetic and shows just how disconnected many of us have become. Yes, I am preaching and whenever I get a complaint from someone about taxes, schools etc, the first thing i ask is: Did you vote in the last election? Happy Holidays and Please Vote 3/20/2012!
William Vollrath December 16, 2011 at 02:32 pm
Seems a few people need to wake up to the fact that the retail environment of a Naperville isn't conducive to less congestion and fewer parking problems. That doesn't mean it isn't desireable in many ways, but please don't plead for improved parking and a Naperville like retail downtown in the same argument. Try finding a parking space in Naperville at 6:00pm.
William Vollrath December 16, 2011 at 02:40 pm
PS Scott and Paul,
Ok, I don't force anyone to accept reality, but my Gap bet is still open to those who don't understan the Gap has rejected our downtown as a store site for as long as we have had a downtown TIF and a related case of Gap envy.
Kelly December 16, 2011 at 10:45 pm
When compared with Naperville and Hinsdale - we don't have the median income numbers a retailer like the Gap would like to see for a stand alone Main street situation, I would guess. The downtown needs a national level restaurant/quick-service like Corner Bakery etc. or a "special" place like VIE or Majeen or any number of the Naperville restaurants (no more Italian please) to get the ball rolling so to speak.
George Fiedor December 17, 2011 at 06:23 am
I agree,Bank building is the right place for parking.
Susan Carroll December 17, 2011 at 02:48 pm
Where do people get the idea Downers Grove is a town of poor people? Downers Grove and Naperville are very close in terms of median income. I worked for a downtown business district. They put in a Gap in a new strip mall built adjacent to the downtown, still part of the TIF district, that had the requisite number of parking spaces required by their corporate headquarters. Mind you, this was a decade ago, but I'm quite certain they still have parking space availability on their list when scoping out locations.
William Vollrath December 17, 2011 at 02:56 pm
When we had lots of available parking spaces downtown, after the garage was built, they still stayed away. The merchant mix and customer profile is simply not what they want! Downtown DG has never been a "fashion" oriented retail area and more parking won't change that!!
Susan Carroll December 17, 2011 at 04:08 pm
Well, maybe if you but a little more effort into your appearance, WV. You're driving retailers away!
PAUL C. December 17, 2011 at 04:26 pm
I think the tide has turned in the resturant segment and although the retail shopping selection has improved, it still has a way to go! We could easily support better national retailers as stores like Crystal House, Dream Interiors, Avec Panache and Jolie Boutique all are doing business in downtown DG. All of these retailers have carved a nice niche for themselves in DG. Our resturant selection has improved drastically in the past 10 years. Disposable income is not the issue and having the right mix has brought business in from our neighboring suburbs. Emmetts, Ballydoyle, Another Round and the downtown wine shop are example of this.
William Vollrath December 17, 2011 at 04:27 pm
No doubt I am the reason for no national retailers downtown in fifty years. More likely, I am just trying to stop the spending of scarce taxpayer's money on another parking garage promoted by those who still naively believe "If you build it, they will come."
William Vollrath December 17, 2011 at 04:55 pm
I should correct the above to read "no national retail apparel stores." We did have a Fannie May, which I believe previous Village leadership pushed out of the downtown, and Giordano's which is trying to survive bankruptcy.
Susan Carroll December 17, 2011 at 07:53 pm
I'm not disagreeing at all. I'm just saying, retailers have a list of things they look for, and parking is but one. I believe someone in DG economic development should know EXACTLY what these retailers are looking for. We should also have an idea of what we want. Do we WANT to be a bunch a national retailers, like an open-air mall? Do we want a mix (probably)? What is the mix we're aiming for? How do we achieve that mix? All of that is beyond the scope of the parking issue. Right now, I'd settle for more parking near the library so my arms don't get tired.
But you looking spiffier COULD help the town as a whole. A morale-booster.
William Vollrath December 17, 2011 at 08:54 pm
A spiffier me? What do you suggest? I was under the illusion I look damn good for an old guy in suburban Chicago...
Chad D. Walz December 17, 2011 at 09:10 pm
If you charge me to park in the Down Town garage I definitly will take my business elsewhere.
Patrick Murphy January 6, 2012 at 04:31 am
It will always come down to population as well when the big national store consider a location. We'll never be a Naperville in numbers nor would I want us to be. The best thing about Naperville is that I can get there and utilize everything they have to offer in fifteen minutes. Their type of downtown congestion is not what most Downersgrovians are looking for.
Patrick Murphy January 6, 2012 at 04:36 am
Does anyone have the rent rolls for the parking garage? If it's almost at capacity shouldn't it be a self sustaining structure? And if so why not a Northside duplicate.
William Vollrath January 6, 2012 at 01:31 pm
At a total cost of over $25 million, the downtown parking garage will never be "self-sustaining." Some of us pointed that out before the first shovel went into the ground. Its cost necessitated much of the subsequent development/debt in an ill-advised effort to get the TIF to work financially...
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