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Patch Poll: Will President Obama's Student Loan Plan Help to Stimulate the Economy?

The student loan crisis has surpassed the credit card crisis, according to the federal government.

President Obama last week announced his “Know Before You Owe” plan would allow some college graduates to limit federal student loan repayments to 10 percent of discretionary income starting in January, two years before the cap was due to take effect under federal law.

The Obama administration has said that 1.6 million Americans will benefit from the lower monthly payments, and upwards of 6 million can take advantage of the loan consolidations, which will lower interest rates by up to 0.5 percent. Most of those affected will be current students or recent borrowers whose income is sufficiently low upon entering the workforce that monthly payments are a significant financial burden.

According to a White House fact sheet, a teacher $25,000 in debt and earning $30,000 a year will see their payments reduced to about $114 a month.

Last week’s , Do You Think the Occupy Wall Street Movement Has the Potential to Change Public Policy?, resulted in just about a dead heat. Forty-nine percent said yes; 48 percent answered no, and 1 percent did not know.

The poll drew almost 100 comments.

From Earl M. McGuire: “I don't fully understand the ‘Occupy Wall Street Protest,’ but see… banks holding off raising ATM/Debit card fees to five dollars. That I know is small potatoes for the little working guy, none the less a rare victory for the ‘99%.’ To the protesters, thank you, maybe I do get it. The working American cannot get ahead. Another point on this OWS theme... ‘Talk about a raise. According to a new study from the Economic Policy Institute, the wealthiest 1 percent of U.S. households saw their inflation-adjusted incomes skyrocket 224 percent from 1979 to 2007, while the bottom 90 percent of households grew just 5 percent during that time.’ ”

Chad D. Walz said: “The 99% movement is dead. They are just lazy people who don't want to work so they protest. As soon as the cold weather comes they will be gone. They don't have the true grit to really protest.”

Russ Harrison responded: “Chad, do you sincerely believe that all the protesters are unemployed? That they are ‘lazy people that don't want to work’ so they protest? That is precisely the attitude that is fueling this movement, and so far removed from reality that it's ludicrous to even entertain it as fact. Sure, there are some hardcore lazy ones as well as some anarchists mixed in the group. But the majority of protesters are over 25, have or have had decent paying jobs, and have had enough of whatever perceived wrongdoing they are currently protesting. (There's a LOT of different issues within the movement.) As for the disappearing as soon as it gets cold, I'm pretty sure a lot of them have winter clothes suitable for this climate.”

Will the OWS movement change public policy? “Only if they produce a viable party candidate,” said Jessica Rosenberg.

     
TCB November 9, 2011 at 01:46 pm
Ken, so you can't back up the claim in your original post can you? I thought so.
TCB November 9, 2011 at 01:49 pm
Ken, do you REALLY believe the country is at 9%, 13.9 million unemployed, up from 7 Mil at 4.5, because of public sector layoffs? 7 Million public sector layoffs? That's the point to your post where you claim, "Since 3/2010 through 9/2011, the country has created 2.5 million private sector jobs; the reason the unemployment figure is still at 9% is the loss of public sector jobs - nurses, firemen, police, teachers" And with you claim of 2.5 Mil private sector jobs created, that would mean, according to you, the 9.5 million public sector lay-offs got us from 4.5% to 9%.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:13 pm
Liberal = person so open minded thier brains have fallen out.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:16 pm
College's produce such an average American worker its almost laughable.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:18 pm
Ken knows nothing of what he thinks he knows about the IL football coach. Ron Zook makes over $1 million per season to coach IL. $1.5 mil if he makes a bowl game. So not sure I would take anything Ken says very seriously.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:19 pm
Show me your states Ken. Why you won't! Because they don't exsist. The numbers you claim are falsehoods. Nice try mr. Liberal.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:21 pm
Wow...you have offically derailed Ken. You are drinking the lame stream media cool aid. Your whole Dem party platform is unfuded. Check that...its funded by American's paying most of thier income in taxes. The Dem party is Un American!
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:22 pm
I couldn't agree more Mike. More private sector jobs = more taxes = more first responders. Makes perfect sense to us normal folks!
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:25 pm
Good for you Sandy. I love seeing people living the American Dream. Working hard, saving money and acting responsibly. Such a novel concept these days.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:26 pm
Libs have no basis to back thier claims up with TCB. They argue philosophy rather than reality.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 02:28 pm
Maybe the answer is to have our high schools do more vocational job skills bases training. Then college wouldn't be the only answer!!
Ken Kuchar November 9, 2011 at 02:31 pm
Here's one site you can review - I have more
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-07-19/markets/30079944_1_private-sector-public-sector-job-growth
Ken Kuchar November 9, 2011 at 02:34 pm
Here's another
http://progressivetoo.com/2011/05/15/chart-private-sector-job-growth-under-obama/
Ken Kuchar November 9, 2011 at 02:35 pm
And one more
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2011_03/028275.php
TCB November 9, 2011 at 03:26 pm
OK Ken, I read all three, and yes I agree, McDonald's has been adding jobs. But I'm asking you to defend your position that, " the reason the unemployment figure is still at 9% is the loss of public sector jobs - nurses, firemen, police, teachers" It's you're quote and it is false. The math doesn't add up. Even if it were true, would you raise taxes, and hire 7 Million Teachers, Fire, and Police to get to 4.5% unemployment? And if anything, we need to lay off more public sector workers to diminish the debt Illinois and other states are in, as well as the US, because were going to end up in the same boat as Greece, and now, Italy. Something tells me you don't pay a lot of taxes.
Ken Kuchar November 9, 2011 at 03:49 pm
Facts about public sector job losses
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2011/09/02/public-sector-losses-continue-to-drive-poor-jobs-numbers It's dangerous to assume but I am confident we pay more taxes than you - so we have excellent schools (due to budget cuts in Riverside-Brookfield HS district, class size is now 37 - is that what you want?), a strong infrastructure, safe food and drugs, a clean environment, rule of law, a strong judiciary, etc. Those who think we can get out of this debt crisis by only cutting, are very mistaken.
Tony Cesare November 9, 2011 at 03:54 pm
I've said it before, the concept of vocational training is a sound one, but unfortunately it's dated. There are few, if any, vocational training jobs that don't require a higher level of education than ever.
This says it all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPXVtFcl5U
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 04:10 pm
Once again Tony you have taken a very serious subject and belittled it. Screw industrial arts. I am talking about having classes that teach kids to become an electrician, automotive technician, airline mechanic, HVAC technician, Plumber, Customer service specialist, Retail operations management, Culinary arts skills, Air traffic controller, Warehouse logistics manager, Real estate broker, ICE inspector, Commercial pilot. All of these jobs pay at or over the national average which is in the $46k per year range. Now lets find solutions Tony, not reasons not to be a less successful country. We already have that down pat. College is the institution that is out of touch and out of date.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 04:12 pm
http://christianpf.com/paying-jobs-without-degree/
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 04:43 pm
One more thing...
Less than 30% of all American's who start college actually finish. So what does that say about our educational system? What are the 70% doing for work? I am totally in favor of college prep courses until sophomore year of high school. I think that is the point where we all know if someone is college material or needs to find a career that may not be college related. So why not offer courses that actually educate? It is a waste of time to teach kids college prep, who are not interested in college. It just makes sense Tony...
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 04:44 pm
Which seems to be exactly what many American's lack these days...Common sense.
TCB November 9, 2011 at 04:57 pm
Ken, I read your latest link. The economy shed 7 Million jobs, and you think losing 600,000 gov't jobs is hurting us? We haven't cut ENOUGH public sector jobs. I'm still waiting for you to explain your claim, " the reason the unemployment figure is still at 9% is the loss of public sector jobs - nurses, firemen, police, teachers" Out of 7 Million lost. Let's see we'll allocate the 600,000 public sector losses from your latest article, against the 2.5 Million private sector jobs gained, and that still leaves a 1.9 Million Net gain. I'm using your numbers, logic, math, and links. Your math and links don't add up to support your claim. By the way, I'm glad to learn you live in Cook County. Enjoy that 20% property tax increase to support all those public sector jobs no one can live without.
Nick Beam November 9, 2011 at 05:17 pm
I've been saying this for years.
Ken Kuchar November 9, 2011 at 06:00 pm
Once again assuming. I do NOT live in Cook - I live in DuPage - class size is 21 in District 99. Conservative = no heart / compassion.
Tony Cesare November 9, 2011 at 06:12 pm
Chad-I think, based on some of your comments, that you look at the crowds gathered near Wall Street and see them all as spoiled, college educated and over indulged babies (and no doubt some are). You seem to have a prejudice or resentment toward higher education, toward getting a degree. I could be wrong, just my impression.
Many of the jobs you talk about are absolutely worthy (I didn't know you didn't need a degree to be an air traffic controller, learned something new today!) but don't discount the earning power of a college degree. Also, I don't think your stat about 70% never finishing says as much about college as it does about the 70%, or the high schools that never prepared them.
Tony Cesare November 9, 2011 at 06:14 pm
My father thought of a degree as an insurance policy on your future. If I wanted to be a flooring contractor like him that was fine, but I was going to get my degree first. It was a very proud moment for both of us, I achieved something he never had the opportunity to.
TCB November 9, 2011 at 07:11 pm
Ken, in all these posts you haven't once written a word to defend the inconsistent math behind YOUR premise which was, " the reason the unemployment figure is still at 9% is the loss of public sector jobs - nurses, firemen, police". Didn't think you could or would. Later.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 08:26 pm
A degree is no longer the insurance policy it once was though Tony. I don't resent people with degrees at all. I hold 2 of them myself. AAS from your favorite Jr. College the University of Southern Palatine and a BA in Business Management from Judson University in Elgin. I am saying that we need to provide opportunity for those 70% who do not graduate from college. Our educational system fails miserably in this respect. The one thing I feel this country should provide for is the "opportunity" to succeed.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 08:33 pm
The vast majority of that growth is construct based union jobs from the stimulus. Look at that chart next year, it will be back down like the end of Bush and Start of Obama years. You can take that to the bank.
Chad D. Walz November 9, 2011 at 08:34 pm
Conservative = 99% of the taxpayers in the country

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