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Downers Grove Council to Discuss Regulations on Backyard Chicken Coops

Commissioner Becky Rheintgen requested the council discuss increasing the number of chickens permitted, decreasing setback requirements, banning roosters and requiring a license or permit for keeping chickens, according to village documents.

Downers Grove officials on Tuesday are expected to discuss the village's regulations on backyard chicken coops for the first time in 25 years.

Under the "new business" portion of the meeting agenda, Downers Grove Village Manager David Fieldman has included a memo titled "Discussion of Village Fowl Regulations." The discussion, he wrote, was included at the request of Commissioner Becky Rheintgen.

Downers Grove is one of several Chicago suburbs that allow residents to keep chickens, roosters and other fowl in their backyards. Other communities include Naperville, Plainfield, Brookfield, Westchester, Batavia, Evanston, Schaumburg and Western Springs.

The last time the issue was discussed in Downers Grove was when the current fowl regulations were approved in May 1987, Fieldman said.

The village defines fowl as "any domesticated bird, poultry or water fowl, except for homing pigeons and caged birds kept as house pets." A maximum of four fowl aged 18 weeks or older and four fowl younger than 18 weeks are permitted on residential properties, according to village documents.

Per village code, all fowl must be entirely confined in a pen, coop, building or other enclosure at all times. Enclosures must be set back at least 50 feet from any property line, and shall be kept "clean, sanitary and free from all refuse."

According to Fieldman's memo, Rheintgen has asked that council discuss increasing the number of chickens permitted, decreasing the setback requirements, banning roosters and requiring a license or permit for keeping chickens.

No further information was available regarding Rheintgen's request. However, Fieldman noted in the agenda documents that the village has handled five fowl-related code enforcement cases in 2012, all of which were prompted by resident complaints. Two active enforcement cases are pending.

The item is up for discussion only during Tuesday's village council meeting, which will be held at 7 p.m. at Village Hall, 801 Burlington Ave. Additional action is dependent on the council's direction, according to meeting documents.

What are your thoughts on backyard chicken coops in Downers Grove? Tell us in the comment section below.

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Scott C. December 3, 2012 at 01:25 pm
This is great. Sure, plenty of folks will cluck about how there are other issues for the Village to deal with, and they aren't wrong. But backyard chicken keeping is quite popular and given the size of the average lot (at least near town), many of us are unable to even consider the option due to narrow (but deep) lots. Would be great to freshen up these restrictions to allow more folks the option.
Mollie cawthorne December 3, 2012 at 01:54 pm
I agree....raisng backyard chickens can be a very rewarding....especially for our children. Chickens can be wonderful pets- each with different individual personalities and mannerisms. In addition, the eggs they produce are a wonderful source of food- more nutritional than the eggs you buy at the grocery store (due to their freshness, etc.). I believe the property line setback ordinance should be adjusted- but with the adjustment (and out of respect for fellow neighbors) people owning chickens/coops must take responsibility to keep that coop clean and orderly.
- MBC
Stacey Poulter December 3, 2012 at 03:56 pm
I know of a couple people in unincorporated DG who had to get rid of their Chickens because DuPage County would not allow them as of 4-5 years ago. They actually fought through the court system to try to keep the chickens and lost! I do think there needs to be more regulation on on them to protect the bird's especially with fighting on the rise and the huge increase in coyotes in the area.
Tony Cesare December 3, 2012 at 04:31 pm
I'm not opposed to the idea, but not without more enforcement of regulations. What recourse do I have if my neighbor's coop is shoddy and he/she isn't taking care of their animals? Decreasing the set backs seems a recipe to invite complaints.
Sam D December 3, 2012 at 05:10 pm
Mollie,
I am interested in what your husband thinks about this subject. I recall seeing him several times pontificating about a property in PD area that wanted to consolidate two properties. He was adamantly opposed to the idea of this due to how it would change the landscape and character of the neighborhood. It seems quite disingenuous for some people to complain when residents want to create more open space in a neighborhood but don't complain when people want to raise dirty and loud chickens. I can't stop scratching my head at this logic or lack there of. Check this out...http://www.compassionatespirit.com/Keith-Blog/2011-04-26.htm. Some food for thought on this subject. Tony has a point about regulating this to a point where it doesn't infringe on others either through lack of care/knowledge, or carelessness on behalf of the coop owners, etc. The list could go on and on. Honestly, how many people are interested in raising chickens? If there is a small portion of residents then register them with local animal hospitals and make sure they are keeping a certain set of standards. However, I honestly don't think this should even be on our radar. IMHO!
S.H. December 3, 2012 at 05:11 pm
I think this is a great idea and the proposed restrictions make sense. It also demonstrates an awareness that not everyone in Downers Grove thinks that food can only come from a grocery store. A growing number of people are growing their own fresh vegetables, providing their own eggs and honey and buying fresh food from local sources. Thank you Commissioner Becky Rheintgen for truly thinking outside the box.
Sam D December 3, 2012 at 05:32 pm
S.H,
I would like to make sure my beef is grass fed and free of hormones and antibiotics. Would it be okay if I had a cow on my property so I don't have to go to the store? Where do we draw the line? Why discriminate against someone who would like a cow for fresh meat or dairy???
Scott C. December 3, 2012 at 05:45 pm
Wow...nice to see some folks can't resist riding the slippery slope without regard for reality. But what else is new?
Lets keep reality in mind, shall we? First, dogs are way louder and produce far more waste than a few chickens. Yet Downers Grove is home to many peacefully existing canines and all is well. Second, the noise issue might have more legs if we were talking roosters (those buggers make a ton of noise - and are rightly prohibited,) but the lady birds are pretty silent and a heck of a lot quieter than any dog. So as everyone lets their mind spin into a frenzy of chicken-craziness overrunning our beloved village, lets keep a few things in mind: (1) These are not the first animals that will be permitted in the Village. (2) Chickens are already allowed. These are just revised parameters. (3) These revised parameters are not going to cause everyone in DG to scream "FINALLY!" and run out to buy and raise hundreds of chickens. In reality (where most of us live), we are talking revised parameters about owning a couple tiny birds that make no noise and produce less waste than your average dog does...waste which, by the way, many people pay big money to buy at a store and put in their yard/garden as fertilizer already! We aren't talking about Tyson bringing commercialized chicken farming Downers Grove, folks.
Ray December 3, 2012 at 05:47 pm
50' setback? Seems a little extreme, to be required to have at least a 120x120' lot just to keep a couple cute partridge wyandottes.
Scott C. December 3, 2012 at 05:55 pm
Uh oh...I hope you don't lay eyes on my dog's shoddy dog house and/or take issue with whether or not I'm taking care of my dog, which, it should be noted, observes no setbacks when pooping, peeing, or barking. Does all three right up to the fence line...oh, the humanity!
These concerns are waaaay more likely to be an issue with larger, louder, smellier canines...but not an issue at any level of significance in our fair village, are they? Neither will the chickens. This is just giving people an issue about which to wax hysterical on a balmy December Monday!
Mollie cawthorne December 3, 2012 at 07:13 pm
Sam,
I am sorry that you and Thomas disagreed in the past about property, however lets leave him out of this conversation as i have not discussed this issue with him. I happened to run across this article this morning and gave my viewpoint on urban farming/raising chickens. I respect your point of view, however, feel differently about the topic. Thanks.
Sam D December 3, 2012 at 07:42 pm
Fair enough Mollie. I suppose I assumed you and Thomas had talked over waffles this morning;). I thought you could provide some insight into his way of thinking. Sorry if I upset you. I appreciate your viewpoint. Have you had a chance to read the link I posted? I am interested in knowing your thoughts now that it shows that natural chickens don't lay eggs very often. I believe that farm animals belong on a farm. If people want these types of animals then they should live on a farm. Some residents have 50 ft wide lots and the houses put on these lots consume every inch except for the required green space set out by the village. We don't live in an area that is conducive to these animals. It might even be considered cruel to keep them in an area that doesn't allow for growth, exercise, etc. Just more thoughts from a nobody like myself. Have a great day Mollie. Sorry, again, if I ruffled your feathers in any way:))))). LOL
Hank A December 3, 2012 at 08:36 pm
All the coyotes are looking forward to MORE CHICKENS
Hank A December 3, 2012 at 08:37 pm
All the coyotes are looking forward to more chickens
living in DG....
Scott C. December 3, 2012 at 08:43 pm
Sam, I read the materials via the link you provided and think the concerns are fair. Some observations.
All three outlined concerns go to owner ignorance (protection, health care and unwanted animals). These issues are a reality for any animal owner - be it cat, dog, ferret, fish, hamster, whatever. Ignorant animal owners (or whim purchasers) are definitely a problem. Having worked with animal rescues for 10+ years, I'm familiar and share these concerns 100%. But I don't think updating/modifying parameters around ownership that is already allow in Downers Grove is going to substantially change chicken welfare. Its a fair point, to be sure, but those concerns go more to whether people should own chickens at all, which is not the issue the Village Council is addressing. I would again point out that I don't think changing the parameters around property setbacks, etc. are going to cause a drastic uptick in the number of chicken owners (responsible or otherwise). It will simply provide more flexibility for those who might be interested. Hopefully anyone who is interested is thoughtful, educated and understands all of the considerations involved. But I'd say that regardless of the type of animal being considered. The good news is few people get chickens on a whim. They're expensive to set up and several barriers to entry that (hopefully) make folks think it through. More: http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/chickens/tips/adopting_chickens.html
Mark G December 3, 2012 at 09:18 pm
The chickens could be kept in an enclosed (sides & top) pens to protect them from predators. The pen could be portable & the chicks could "eat your grass" for you. I'm all for it.
Steve L. December 4, 2012 at 02:13 am
Mark, Eat the grass? Chickens?
Amanda Luevano (Editor) December 4, 2012 at 03:26 am
Just a reminder that Patch does not permit the use of aliases. Thanks!
Hank Inversall December 4, 2012 at 03:55 am
Tony Did you ever get your bonfield T shirt? Or are you still upset about it?
Scott C. December 4, 2012 at 01:54 pm
I always find this reminder amusing. Not your fault, of course, Amanda. But the Patch really actually does allow aliases, because it doesn't enforce the "rule." The debate about Patch identities, using one's real/full name, etc. has been revisited ad nauseum.
At the end of the day, people know (or can quickly surmise) who is who, which alias has been set up for a single comment or to advance an agenda and which comments/commenters are worthy of consideration or, otherwise, are ignorable trollish dribble. My take has always been that one would be very hard pressed to find a privacy (or safety) expert who recommends including one's first and last name on the internet (save for Facebook etc. where one can control access to info posted). Even as a practical matter, most people understandably don't want their first and last name plastered on their comments given that a simple google search could reveal to an employer (or colleagues, clients, etc.) one's personal views about a host of local issues or potential violation of employer codes of conduct for having spent time on the web during work hours, etc. And ultimately, even if one does put a full name out there, how does anyone really know the offered identity is real? Come to think of it, I've never seen "Amanda Luevano" and "Tony Cesare" in the same place at the same time!
Amanda Luevano (Editor) December 4, 2012 at 04:31 pm
Scott C., I actually didn't allow aliases in Lemont, but it's harder to start something that wasn't enforced for two years in Downers Grove. Plus, many of the frequent fake names are coming from other sites (on articles like the cartoon), so I can't control that. I have been more lenient about first names and last initials, but I can't really allow something like "Chicken Guy" or something. I also have people trying to impersonate other people in DG, so that's a problem.
As far as your last comment, Tony and I are probably two of the only people on this site that actually do use our real names AND photos. Such is required when you're paid by Patch, I suppose.
BS December 4, 2012 at 07:57 pm
I am in favor of the relaxing of the setback requirements and to give keepres of rogue hens (which I may or not be) a way to be on the up & up. The benefits of keeping a few birds are many and the cons are few. As stated above, they are much more quiet than dogs and produce far less odor than a fesh pile of doggie dump. Us chicken folk are friendly people and usually more than happy to give an impromptu lesson to neighborhood kids. Never saw a youngster that wasn't absolutely enamored with the birds.
Didn't even mention the eggs. 3 or 4 birds will lay more than most can consume, so if you are nice, your chicken keeping neighbor also is usually quite happy to give you a few here or there. And YES, they will be the best eggs you ever had!
C. Litigios Moller December 4, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Fresh eggs in the morning are great. I never got sick from the eggs I had for breakfast when visiting friends in the country. I would think chickens in DG would be OK but you would need to limit how many per the standard lot size. I'll let the big thinkers come up with that #.
Village Homesteaders of Palatine December 4, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Hi Gina here from Homesteaders of Palatine and Bring Backyard Hens to Palatine, IL. Just wanted to wish you the best as you make some positive changes to your existing ordinance.
William Vollrath December 6, 2012 at 03:58 pm
Don't discriminate against pig pens!
SB December 6, 2012 at 04:03 pm
It's amazing, Steve, but yes Chickens eat grass and A Lot of it. That's a big reason backyard chicken eggs are so much higher in Omega 3s then cage-raised chickens.

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